Season 2, Ep. 6: Results Versus Relationships

Published Date: 11-04-2019

In This Episode

  • Daniel Harkavy

    Daniel is the Founder and CEO of Building Champions, Inc. For the past 20-plus years, he has been coaching business leaders to peak levels of performance, profitability and fulfillment. In addition to serving as a CEO Mentor and trusted confidant to high-profile leaders, Daniel is also a sought-after speaker and best-selling author.

  • Todd Mosetter

    As Vice President of Content Development, Todd’s primary job is to understand the story and science behind great leadership—and translate it into messages, content, products and presentations that help others improve how they lead themselves, their teams and their organizations well. Prior to joining Building Champions, he served in various marketing and communications roles all focused on delivering compelling messages that drove measurable outcomes.

  • Drew Lawson

    As both an Executive Coach and a practicing emergency physician at a major trauma & medical center in Southern California, Drew brings a unique perspective on how leaders can remove barriers to success. With degrees from Stanford University and Jefferson Medical College, as well as a number of coaching certifications, Drew is well-equipped to help leaders improve their efficiency and productivity.

  • Heather Leachman-Beck

    Heather Leachman-Beck is the Director of Workplace Innovations at Hyphn. In addition to designing work spaces that are both visually inspiring and highly functional, Hyphn offers a variety of services—from workplace change management and engagement surveys to A/V technology integration—that help business seamlessly navigate a workplace change. To find out more, visit

“Instead of thinking of results and relationships as a balancing act or a zero-sum game, leaders need to start viewing it in terms of dynamic tension. From this perspective, results and relationships—rather than taking away from one another—are pushing together and feeding off one another to help propel your team and your business forward.”

- Daniel Harkavy

“It's all about psychological safety and trust. You have to develop connection and trust. . . That lays the foundation for relationships, for people to feel safe. And if they feel safe and they trust you, then results will come after that.”

- Coach Drew Lawson

Resources from This Episode

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Episode Show Notes

Results and relationships. Too often, leaders hold them at odds with one another. Either we focus so much on getting stellar results that we neglect building the trust and relationships that are necessary for succeeding as a team, or we focus so much on relationships and making sure everyone gets along that we shy away from the hard conversations and holding one another accountable to our shared goals. But the best leaders know that for a team to truly succeed, results and relationships have to go hand in hand.

Join us as we talk with Heather Leachman-Beck, Director of Workplace Innovation at Hyphn Studio, and explore what architecture and design can teach us about the balance between results and relationships.

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Links from this episode:

“The Meaning of ‘Form Follows Function’” – and article from ThoughtCo.

“Form Follows Function” – an article from the Guggenheim Museum

“Frank Lloyd Wright” – a Legacy Essay from

“Should Leaders Focus on Results, or on People?” – an article from Harvard Business Review

“Results or People: Where Should a Leader Focus?” – an article from Forbes – Better Spaces By Design

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